Hi, here my results. A * means with RC, y means perceivable. The columns are the 3 possible intensions. Y means very perceivable. Marga* ynn Marieke YYn Masha* nnn Jacob* nnn Donijs* ynY Auke2 YYn Suzanne nYn JosMirte* nnn MargaMirte* YYY RemcoMirte YYY MariekeMirte YYn LennekeMirte YYY AukeMirte YYn Lies YYY JorritSanne nnn LennekeSarah YYY JorritSarah* nnn RemcoSarah yYY SuzanneSarah nYn (the first NP stressed has F = 2.0 but this still is n) LiesSarah YYY DonijsSarah nnY JacobSarah* nnn (first: F = 2.2) (whoops, Donijs was also *, I forgot) JosSarah* Ynn MargaSarah* YYn So what does this tell us? If there is no RC, then if anything, the NP3 perception troubled us. Except for Suzanne, of course. Sarah had no ear for the NP3/Marga, but ? did not perceive NP2/Marga either. Jacob was kind of not perceivable. For Masha, the ?only? data set tells the same. Donijs could "do" NP1 and 3, but for Sarah, only NP3. Auke had no RC but could not "do" NP3 anyhow. Marga (with RC) was easy, but not for NP3 for Sarah. Remco was completely easy, but without RC. Marieke had no RC but did not manage to make NP3 prominent. Lies had no RC and was easy. Same for Remco. So with RC we have: Marga: Ynn/YYY, Jos Ynn/nnn, Jacob nnn/nnn, Jorrit nnn/nnn, Masha nnn/???, Donijs nnY/ynY. Pretty much of "n" in the second column of the "with RC" summary, thus! The details can be found in metaperccalc.tgz in our data area online, but I guess you do not really want to read the metaperccalc.log ... CC to ChSc in case he is bored :-). Eric - metaperccalc.tgz PS: I know there is a big fat sparse data problem with this, but I think the results are still useful. PS Sanne: Tell me when you need that HTML version of my paper sections! the DOC or RTF version is no real option: StarOffice runs just as bad on 16 MB RAM as Word 2000 does. If you do not believe, just remove all but 16 MB of RAM from your PC and try to run Word... Greetings, Eric